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Offline Nova

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STO and political or Religious aspects
« on: 25 February 2008 03:09 AM »
I was wondering if a game such as Star Trek Online should have a place in it that has Religious and Cultural beliefs as a major part of how you (your character) or the world and species you interact with have these traits.

For example should you as a Vulcan meditate and become familiar with the teachings of Surak?

or what about playing as a Bajoran where their religion is such a huge part of their daily life.

This concept as we have seen in many shows has been the breaking point between a successful First Contact or utter disaster.

Offline Zach

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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #1 on: 25 February 2008 03:26 AM »
I was wondering if a game such as Star Trek Online should have a place in it that has Religious and Cultural beliefs as a major part of how you (your character) or the world and species you interact with have these traits.

For example should you as a Vulcan meditate and become familiar with the teachings of Surak?

or what about playing as a Bajoran where their religion is such a huge part of their daily life.

This concept as we have seen in many shows has been the breaking point between a successful First Contact or utter disaster.

You make a very good point. I would have to say that, if "they" want to create a canon experience, they would need to include both Religous AND Political aspects. - These were things that were seen on screen, so they should be in game - its a key factor of star trek,

On top of this, alot of tv shows and games these days like to "subtly" touch on real world issues too, so it would make sense.


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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #2 on: 29 February 2008 12:49 PM »
i think the religious and political aspect would be briliant. klingons need to do rights of passage etc. bajorans need to pray in the temples, even recieve visions from orbs. it could even throw u a couple of extra stats. where humans on the whole are prob the happy average and dont really do all that religious stuff.

it would be damn good if u could become emissary for a fortnight, or the kai for a limited time. i suppose the emissary positions gone, but i can hope!

it would add yet another dimension to the game.
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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #3 on: 29 February 2008 01:06 PM »
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i suppose the emissary positions gone, but i can hope!
Actually, the emissary is MIA. So you might have a chance ;)

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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #4 on: 29 February 2008 02:21 PM »
Well, I hope stuff like this will be side stuff, and may even have ts rewards :P
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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #5 on: 29 February 2008 02:54 PM »
I can kinda see how you have an overall interaction with your social religious and political sets and standards. but one thing that Star Trek has shown us is that many of the major races actually have a Iconic figure in their history that some how has placed a great impression on the rest of there society for centuries to come. for instance:

Vulcans have Surak

Humans have Zephrem Cochran

Bajorans have the Prophets (or the Emissary)

etc etc etc. so having each of those unique Iconic figures may give us a way on how we might see Classes within STO and how each differentiate between them


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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #6 on: 02 March 2008 06:52 AM »
To be honest I think its a great idea to have a "trait" system that is like a template for how NPCs will react to your avatar. These traits could include:

-Backround (how/where you were raised)
-Religion (even having no religion would effect how people react to you)
-Political Stance (what ideals you follow)

Obviously some traits like where you were born and how you were raised would be "permanent" and set in stone, and others like religion and political stance could be changed because throught life people change their ideals from time to time.

Its funny how many storylines in Trek are based around the interaction of differnt peoples and their ideals, and in my mind its almost like Trek is trying to say, if we can't become tolerant (at least to a basic dagree) on earth, how are we going to expand into space when we meet thousands of other possible races with their thousands of ideals?

So I say the devs shouldn't shy away from these "heavy" topics because they are at the heart of what Trek is all about.

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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #7 on: 04 March 2008 04:01 PM »
Again, it would be silly not to include religious and political aspects. Even the Klingons for  example are highly religious with stovokor, grethor and all of their honour based beliefs.

Romulans are more political, with things always going on that other parts of the goverment dont know about. It would honestly be a bit silly to overlook these aspects of star trek.

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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #8 on: 04 March 2008 08:15 PM »
I don't mind different political or religous beliefs being topics of exploration within STO.

However, I do not feel that STO should be used as a platform to comment on various topics of Religious or Cultural relevance.

What I mean by that: The players in an MMO build their world around them, and shape their characters in such a way. I think it is alright for the devs to throw in religious or cultural aspects, so long as in the end, the player is making the choice which way they or their character leans, and to that end, STO as a platform is not being used to tell players "you should feel this way, otherwise you are wrong." That doesn't make STO an immersive world, but rather turns it into a soapbox.
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Re: STO and political or Religious aspects
« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2008 04:44 AM »
I think i Kinda agree with Redshirt. The various aspects should be explored, but not to deeply.

For example, it should be accepted that the Bajorans all believe in the prophets - they are a deeply religous race - not an episode of ds9 would go by where you would not see some aspect of their religous beliefs - so this should be explored.

Same with the Klingons - they believe in stovokor and grether and have an honour based religion which was regularly seen on the screen - again this should be explored.

On the  flip  side, you never saw people from starfleet going around and saying "hey im a christian" or "hey im an islamist" - so this should be reflected as well, and it s hould be accept that in STO, humans follow one religion or more likely, do not f ollow a religion at all.

Same goes for the  Romulans, Cardassians, etc - but that said, that aspect of these races was never really explored so who knows.

I just think it should reflect what we saw on the screen.