I must be the only one that doesn't like subpar cartoonish graphics.

Dude, I think you're being overly critical. I don't see those screenshots as cartoonish at all.

dude, take that frieghter pic, hold it up next to a comic book and  you wouldn't be able to tell it's not a hand drawn comic strip pic!

it's definatly sub par cartoonish and not very advanced to what can be done graphically, it looks like it's 5 years out of date.

I think we need to see these things move to get a proper impression of how realistic/cartoonish it looks.

I think it also depends on your idea of 'cartoonish'. <<whips out his old fogey megaphone>>

<clears throat>

In MY day, cartoons were things that were hand drawn, that had clearly definable black lines around something. A cat. A dog. A flippin' Pikachu.

NOWADAYS, a 'cartoon' can be defined as something like Star Wars:The Clone Wars. No drawn lines, all CGI. Is it still a cartoon?

Chicken or the egg?

Now, if we take the latter case as the definition, then yes, I can see how Falin's interpretation might be accurate. BUT, if we decide on that being the gold standard for the game, we're gonna be a whole boatload of dissappointed.

People, if we're looking for motion picture quality graphics, it ain't gonna happen. The devs have to use a graphics system that many potential users are able to run, or they risk alienating customers. It's gotta be good, but not SO good that the game only caters to those with Ferraris for computers. <cough Zack cough>  ;)

IMO I think these graphics are comparable to Mass Effect, and those were some damn fine graphics. Anything else is just picking nits or being negative because it makes you feel better to spread the misery around. And I know what I'm talking about.

How do you pick a nit, anyways?

Well said Jatal as always.   I think the graphics in STO are looking pretty awesome now.