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Author Topic: Lost 90s Super Star Trek/Win Trek clone possibly featuring USS Excelsior?  (Read 3554 times)

Offline Captain Trek

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Hello everyone.

So, I have a bit of a long-running mystery on my hands and I signed up because I was hoping somebody here might be able to help me solve it. When I was little, I used to go to this primary school that, despite being tiny, had remarkably well-stocked computers in my year level's classroom. This was right around the turn of the millennium and the most popular titles among the other kids were Worms 2 and Chip's Challenge.

Also on these computers, though? Win Trek. And even when I was little I was an enormous Star Trek fan, a trait I inherited from my mother. Now, I'm sure at least some of you are familiar with Win Trek, given that it's one of the foremost and widely recognised Super Star Trek-style starship sims ever to hit shareware. Needless to say, I played it, and it was fun.

However, there was also a second game in the same style on those computers. It was so long ago that I can't remember the game's name or substantial details about it, but I know I played it. I know it existed. And for a decade, I've wanted to know just what the sam-Hell I played.

So I come to you, in this grand hub of Star Trek gaming knowledge to ask if any of you can help me figure out what this mysterious game I played actually was.

Luckily, I don't have zero information to go on. These are the clues I have from what I can remember of playing the game:

1: The game was most definitely graphical, like Win Trek, not ASCII based. It most likely was also primarily (or exclusively) mouse driven (probably with hotkeys I never found out about), as 3rd grade me wasn't up on his keyboard interfaces all that much.
2: The sprite of the ship appeared to picture the USS Excelsior. It may not have been the Excelsior, but that's what it looked like to me, so we're looking for a game with a ship sprite that was long and thin.
3: The ship sprites were in in bird's eye view, not sideways on like in Win Trek and VGA Trek.
4: When you raised the ship's shields, the ship sprite would gain a thick coloured outline (as opposed to VGA Trek, where the entire sprite is coloured in upon raising the shields).
5: I believe (but I'm not certain) that the game may have been hex-based rather than grid-based.
6: This may have just been because I was young and sucked at video games, but I seem to remember you would run out of energy (and I think it was called energy, not dilithium like in Win Trek) very quickly and had to constantly stop off at starbases every two-and-a-half seconds.
7: The main colours I can remember from the game are blue and grey. I could be mistaken, though.
8: I can confirm that the game was not Win Trek, was not EGA/VGA Trek, and was not Star Trek For Windows 9x.
9: The Start->Programs menu on those computers would have been in alphabetical order, and I remember the game being very close to or perhaps right next to Win Trek on the list, so the game's title probably starts with a letter close to W in the alphabet (could even be S for Star Trek). Either that, or the creator/developer name was close alphabetically to Win Trek.

That's the best I can do on my end. Anyone got any ideas what this mysterious game may have been?

Offline BLZBUB

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Good day Captain Trek, and welcome to Hailing Frequency.

 Based on you info, I assume the mystery game was also windows 3.x based, so that narrows it down somewhat. The fact that the ship used 'Energy', as opposed to 'dilithium', might suggest it was not an actual Star Trek game, but a space game based on the Star Trek IP genre.

 Although hex-square style games were originally board games, like Star Fleet Battles, the WinTrek for Windows 3.x that I found at http://www.mobygames.com/game/wintrek suggests another Shareware game like WinTrek.


MobyGames lists old Star Trek games by release date and platform.Not knowing the year you were playing WinTrek in that school,I cannot narrow down the release date of the product except by basing it off of the WinTrek date of 1992.You can browse that MobyGames site for more game lists based on platform and/or release date.


 Also, I have the following Star Trek Gamers list for older games at http://www.startrek-gamers.com/older_games.htm.


I hope this aids your search somewhat sir.
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Offline Zach

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I like to think I know about most Star Trek games and I have to say, this one does not ring any bells with me. 

I have played (and have a copy somewhere) of the WinTrek that BZLBUB listed above, but I have no memory or recollection of a hex based game that featured an Excelsior type ship. 

That is not to say it did not exist.  Games from that era were not well documented or marked but Star Trek games do tend to be fairly well documented. 

Have you looked through the list here: http://gaming.trekcore.com/chrono_list.html

I have contributed to this list over the years and AFAIK its the most comprehensive list of Trek Games in existence.