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Offline Zach

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #10 on: 17 February 2009 09:45 AM »
I have no problem with it being there, but come on, this isnt what STO is for, so lets not see it in public, perhaps in Private Chat.

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #11 on: 17 February 2009 03:10 PM »
I have no problem with it being there, but come on, this isnt what STO is for, so lets not see it in public, perhaps in Private Chat.

Well what you speak of for tells is more like cybor chatting.

I'm thinking about gaining friendship and a bit of flirting.  Nothing solid but maybe a dialog choice.

Though it might be more iffy since this isn't a single player game and I'm sure more people might get offended.

.... not like many would get flirty with a Gorn heh


Offline Jatal Khyron

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #12 on: 18 February 2009 03:19 PM »
There's nothing wrong with people hooking up online, as long as the personal details stay that way. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with flirting as long as it's done in the right context (with someone you know is of age and knows you) and not sexual harassment of someone you don't know. My ex-girlfriend's daughter was a victim of that in an MMO years ago, so we have to take care to know when and with who. Take me, for instance. I have a fiancee that I've been with for years now. I have no interest in anyone else, but my character is something of a lady chaser. So one day in a Starbase lounge I might harmlessly flirt with someone within my fleet that knows me and get a virtual drink thrown in my face. What it comes down to is making sure you play adult games only with consensual adults, and leave it there.

Offline Aizar Kel

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #13 on: 18 February 2009 03:37 PM »
The problem with that is twofold.

(with someone you know is of age and knows you)

1.  That requires personal real life information.  How would one get that?  Do you ask the character in a tell?  "/tell are you legal?"  Which leads me to problem #2...

2.  People lie.  That "of age" "girl" you are talking to is...a 325 lb bearded guy named Chuck. 

I think it's either all or nothing.  And I'm not a typical all or nothing guy.  But you can't say you can flirt but only under these conditions.  I think that the current universal system of /report(ing) inappropriate behavior is just fine.  Walking up to someone and initiating a conversation isn't reportable.  But saying "Hey baby, you and I should <edit>," is inappropriate. 

Let's leave the thought police in bad Tom Cruise movies.


Offline Jatal Khyron

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #14 on: 18 February 2009 04:00 PM »
LOL if I say up, you say down.

<sigh>

You'd think I was used to this by now....

What I MEAN is, you meet someone online. You get to know them, you get to trust them. You become friends, you game together frequently and talk to each other on Vent/Skype. You engage in some innocent flirtation, they flirt back. It takes time. You don't just target random people in a room and start hitting on them like you're in a nightclub. THEN your example becomes valid. But you know as well as I do that there are people you can trust, and there's everyone else. Morons that do the latter, harassing people they don't know, deserve what they get. You also take a risk that the person you're flirting with is a 320 lb. guy named Chuck, but that's the risks associated with meeting people online nowadays. I think that's a copout. Mature adults know the risk, kids don't. There's where I draw the line between acceptable and not.

RL info is offered by both people, they decide when and how much info to give. People hookup online every day, it WILL happen here despite what anyone says. All I'm saying is that we have to draw the line between what's OK and what isn't. When online people have to be respectful of others and their own behavior, but why play MMOs if not to establish relationships with new people, whether as friends or possibly later on, something more?

As far as the 'thought police' comment goes, I think that's unfair. Respectful, mature, intelligent adults can make the distinction between right and wrong, it's up to each of us to monitor our own behavior. If we see something wrong, we do something about it. HOWEVER, it's more important to know the context of the situation before we hit the 'red alert' button. You're right, we can't monitor thoughts, only actions. Let's just make sure we take the right ones the first time.

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #15 on: 18 February 2009 06:00 PM »
Right, but you're talking about developing a relationship within and without of the context of STO.  You're talking about meeting someone on STO then developing the relationship through other, external means, such as ventrilo, skype,facebook or other such 3rd party programs. 

I just think that we've digressed from the original topic, which I thought was flirting within the game. 

As long as it's within the limits of decency and roleplay, flirt or hit-on away, I say. 

Where I think we run into some metaphorical "badlands" is development of a RL relationship with someone online through the game. 

I've seen several cases of in/out of game relationships and none of them ended nicely. 

So I guess what I'm saying is that I have no problem with a roleplayed flirt or even a roleplayed creepy guy that hits on all the girls.  ("Anyone want a Mountain Dew?  I'm at the bar.  If there's any girls there, I want to do them!"  Gotta love Dr. Demento.)

It's just when things transcend that "safe" level of anonymity, I get worried.


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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #16 on: 18 February 2009 07:15 PM »
If there's any girls there, I want to do them!

Heh. Don't we know that guy? ;)

I agree in principle brother, it's just that I also get worried when people jump to warp and ask questions later. Innocents tend to get trampled under that kind of 'justice'.

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Re: Romancing trek....
« Reply #17 on: 18 February 2009 09:37 PM »
I don't think the topic was relationships with PLAYERS in game but how they work with NPC crew members in game.

Since Cryptic is prolly not making bridge crew players and NPC pets, many are wondering if there will be any dialog that could make a friendship or romance plot (think KotOR and how your character could talk through dialog to Carth/Bastila) or will we all just have wodden crew that announce when the shields are down or someone is hailing us.