Hailing Frequency - Star Trek Gaming Forum & Podcast

Star Trek Gaming => Latest Star Trek Gaming News => Topic started by: Zach on 02 February 2009 07:26 PM

Title: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Zach on 02 February 2009 07:26 PM
[img align=right]http://hailingfrequency.co.uk/images/news/gaming-news.png[/img]Rumors have been circulating lately regarding Bethesda Softworks and their hold over the Star Trek Gaming license.   Several popular websites and even the highly reliable PC Gamers podcast have been stating that Bethesda Softworks had officially dropped the Star Trek Gaming License.

Such a drop would be highly unusual as Bethesda Softworks are meant to hold the Star Trek Gaming License until at least January 2011.

We were able to speak, albeit briefly, with Bethesda Softworks Vice President of Public Relations, Pete Hines today and when we confronted him with the rumour, he stated simply:

"At this time, we currently have no plans to create another Star Trek game. That’s all we’re saying at this point."

So while we have yet more confirmation that Bethesda Softworks do not intend to produce any more Star Trek Titles, it does not seem that they are going so far as to completely drop their license, so one can only assume that they are, perhaps, waiting to see how successful or unsuccessful the upcoming Star Trek movie and MMO are.

This rumor has been stopped in its tracks, but one has to wonder just what Bethesda Softworks are thinking..........and are forced to also wonder what it is they arnt telling us at this stage.

Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: amb on 02 February 2009 08:54 PM
Interesting. They better sell it. They don't respect the franchise at all and better stick to what they are good in. Developing Top Titles like The Elder Scrolls IV, Fallout 3 and the like. It's a shame they obviously don't want to invest money in a franchise like Star Trek and instead feed the console market with low budged titles developed by lower secondary companies.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Random Redshirt on 02 February 2009 09:00 PM
...and instead feed the console market with low budged titles developed by lower secondary companies.

Hate to tell you this, but consoles are where it's at.

Take a look around your big box stores, your electronics stores, your gaming stores. PC Gaming has dwindled. Granted, MMOs have exploded, but because MMOs have exploded, single player PC gaming is drying up. There are far more console gamers in the world then there are PC gamers.

So pandering to the console, while annoying to a PC gamer, is figuratively a very good business strategy, and a strategy you'll see applied more liberally in this economic downturn.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: amb on 02 February 2009 09:08 PM
I agree. But take the sentence as a whole. the other key word was "low budged".
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Acidrain on 02 February 2009 09:22 PM
...and instead feed the console market with low budged titles developed by lower secondary companies.

Hate to tell you this, but consoles are where it's at.

Take a look around your big box stores, your electronics stores, your gaming stores. PC Gaming has dwindled. Granted, MMOs have exploded, but because MMOs have exploded, single player PC gaming is drying up. There are far more console gamers in the world then there are PC gamers.

So pandering to the console, while annoying to a PC gamer, is figuratively a very good business strategy, and a strategy you'll see applied more liberally in this economic downturn.

I completely disagree, PC sales were still up last year and the Console is about to become cross platform on many of the current games and PC specs have stayed steady instead of having to upgrade.

The problem with bethsoft is that they don't know or release the potential they could have with the ST license to be honest. They showed how that went down with Legacy, they might have made a profit yet they didn't put in allot of backing behind the game that frankly was single player disaster that the modding community took and reformed it. The list is so long i could go on and on, i simply don't think bethsoft realizes what they have and i don't see another title coming from bethsoft. To be frank i don't think anyone should expect anything out of bethsoft, they are arrogant and don't realize nor should they have the license to be honest.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: JeanNYGUARD on 02 February 2009 09:35 PM
[img align=right]http://hailingfrequency.co.uk/images/news/gaming-news.png[/img]Rumors have been circulating lately regarding Bethesda Softworks and their hold over the Star Trek Gaming license.   Several popular websites and even the highly reliable PC Gamers podcast have been stating that Bethesda Softworks had officially dropped the Star Trek Gaming License.

Such a drop would be highly unusual as Bethesda Softworks are meant to hold the Star Trek Gaming License until at least January 2011.

We were able to speak, albeit briefly, with Bethesda Softworks Vice President of Public Relations, Pete Hines today and when we confronted him with the rumour, he stated simply:

"At this time, we currently have no plans to create another Star Trek game. That’s all we’re saying at this point."

So while we have yet more confirmation that Bethesda Softworks do not intend to produce any more Star Trek Titles, it does not seem that they are going so far as to completely drop their license, so one can only assume that they are, perhaps, waiting to see how successful or unsuccessful the upcoming Star Trek movie and MMO are.

This rumor has been stopped in its tracks, but one has to wonder just what Bethesda Softworks are thinking..........and are forced to also wonder what it is they arnt telling us at this stage.

Zach

I personally heard from the Legal department of Bethesda... They told me they no longer hold the license. 

Also it doesnt look like The VP said he holds the Star Trek gaming license... he just said their not making any Star Trek games... it could be due to them not holding the license.

But whatever it is... it seems like the left hand is not working with the right hand.

If they do have the license... their really un intelligent.  How do you pass up the chance to have a PC / Console game release with The new Star Trek movie.  Every other company... from toy companies like playmates to clothing companies.... all are making Star Trek shirts, toys, board games, etc.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/01/28/cbs-announces-new-star-trek-licenses-including-monopoly-uno-apparel-fragrences-more/ (http://trekmovie.com/2009/01/28/cbs-announces-new-star-trek-licenses-including-monopoly-uno-apparel-fragrences-more/)

The way Bethesda thinks... they'll be out of business soon enough.

Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Lt. Katten on 02 February 2009 09:37 PM
Ok wait...so they are speculated to be waiting to see how successful the upcoming movie and MMO are...but they hold the ST Gaming License?  So MMO's don't legally fall under said gaming license?  If not, then what DO they fall under, and who currently holds "it" (hopefully Cryptic does)?
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Acidrain on 02 February 2009 09:47 PM
Look at Bethsofts track record when it comes to the last titles? Bethsoft don't seem to be a very smart forward thinking company anyhow.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Zach on 02 February 2009 10:17 PM
Ok wait...so they are speculated to be waiting to see how successful the upcoming movie and MMO are...but they hold the ST Gaming License?  So MMO's don't legally fall under said gaming license?  If not, then what DO they fall under, and who currently holds "it" (hopefully Cryptic does)?

The MMO license has apparently always been separate from the "main" star trek gaming license.

Quote from: JeanNYGUARD
Also it doesn't look like The VP said he holds the Star Trek gaming license... he just said their not making any Star Trek games... it could be due to them not holding the license.

Why wouldn't he say outright that they don't have it?  They either still have it, or the companies left hand doesn't know what its right hand is doing so to speak
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Acidrain on 03 February 2009 12:03 AM
Quote
Why wouldn't he say outright that they don't have it?  They either still have it, or the companies left hand doesn't know what its right hand is doing so to speak

Come on, we have seen weird stuff when it comes to Bethsoft and this is no different. I think that they aren't going to make another game with an ST title, the reason look at what they had and they put the last and final nail in St Gaming. What Cryptic is doing is great, i hope they can truly redeem the curse of ST gaming. Bethsoft, shouldn't be allowed to create another game with an ST title.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Blackfire on 03 February 2009 10:23 AM

 Bethesda has dropped the ball, yet again and it's no suprise to me considering their track record lately. Sure they can make some great 'sequels', but can anyone name an original title that they have done lately that was a great success? I doubt it.  Even Oblivion had huge bug problems when it came out and still people make dissapointed comparisons between that game and elders scrolls 2. 
   Bethesda will survive but only by continually making sequel games in my opinion, until the company investors say enough is enough and demand a management change and overhaul how they do things there.  IMHO.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Aizar Kel on 03 February 2009 12:42 PM
What does the inability to produce a good original title have to do with the Star Trek franchise? 

Hell, I'd like to see them do a sequel to something like say...DS9 The Fallen.  That's one that you could do with the Bethesda engine and it could be really good.  Sure there wouldn't be ship battles, but I think you can have a good game without that.

Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Zach on 03 February 2009 02:36 PM
I think that at this point, Bethesda are content to allow the license to expire.  They aquired the license cheap, really cheap, back in 2005 and they have already made their money back tenfold with Legacy, Tactical Assault, Conquest and Encounters.

Unless their eyebrows get significantly raised by the success (i hope) of the new movie and STO, i doubt we will see any new official trek games until at least 2012.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: Acidrain on 03 February 2009 03:52 PM
I think that at this point, Bethesda are content to allow the license to expire.  They aquired the license cheap, really cheap, back in 2005 and they have already made their money back tenfold with Legacy, Tactical Assault, Conquest and Encounters.

Unless their eyebrows get significantly raised by the success (i hope) of the new movie and STO, i doubt we will see any new official trek games until at least 2012.

Zack,

I agree with your analyst, as well look at the hell that they were put through with a certain website, podcast, mod group. I don't think they expected to receive what they did and the harshness they received. They were very unprepared in regards to the backlash they received and they didn't deal with it well. They didn't know what they had, they didn't know the community and i think if they had treated it much different and did there research perhaps things would have turned out better.
Title: Re: Bethesda Softworks have not dropped the Star Trek Gaming License
Post by: tjoz_aftermath on 08 February 2009 07:50 AM
Bethesda wont do anything gaming wise related to the new movie as the license they have does not include the new movie. They have said in the past that they wont be doing a movie tie in game as their license dont cover it.

Bethesda proved there is valuable money to be made in the home consoles market. Although just about everyone condemns them to hell and back a few times over for putting out Legacy, they proved ST can be profitable only if its pitched to the home console market. Look at STO, being developed for both PC and 360 (and potential for a PS3 version).

Legacy still sells for Bethesda, not the PC as that has been discontinued in quite a few countries as that tanked mad hard. The 360 version continues to sell and in a few markets its still full price almost 3years after it came out.

Bethesda turning away from the ST franchise isnt exactly clear cut. There have been quite a few other things that have gone on in the background that may have influenced Bethesda to do a 'f*** you all' approach. If I was Bethesda, I most likely would do the 'f*** you all' approach too lol.

Bethesda's main franchise is its own; the Elder Scrolls franchise. They got success with the Fallout franchise with Fallout 3 and have had various amounts of success with other franchises they have picked up included ST. All people think of Bethesda are RPG's, but there is also something else Bethesda are very good at and thats multi format titles.

If Bethesda ever do decide to put out another game, you can pretty much bet on it being mutli format. For Bethesda or any company to develop an ST game thats single format only would be financial suicide, especially the PC format as the gaming franchise is too varied to target a specific demographic without alienating a good majority of the rest.